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hello everyone,

hope you all had a good holiday season and happy new year~
since my birthday is over as well, i can safely retreat back to my inner sanctum of seclusion~ even work has been letting me completely avoid people for the next week~

all i can say is that i am relieved.  i truly am an introvert.  not one of those stereotypically awkward types, (though i can be awkward during the right moments) no no my mind goes spinning a mile a minute when i'm thrusted into socializing and i manage to put a good performance of being out going, friendly, confident ect... it's a relief to hole up again and start back into spinning my stories instead.

i notice that illustrations tend to get more views/comments then comic pages on deviantart in general.
i guess the pages don't look as flashy overall?  i want to try and share my story telling more in the future so i think i'm going to be doing less illustrations unless i'm particularly inspired.    

speaking of which, now that all three renascence stories are up (the normal one, threads, hungry) what do you think? which did you enjoy the best and why?  or perhaps you didn't particularly enjoy any of them, maybe you can share that opinion as well.
  • Listening to: videogame remix!!
  • Reading: secret~~!
  • Watching: my life fly by
  • Playing: nothing this week
  • Eating: chocolate chip pancakes
  • Drinking: instant coffee
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kargath64 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012
The trouble with comics on DA is that there's no interface to say "go to the start of a series".

With the multiple short stories you write, I'd recommend using a customised ComixPress installation on your own server - otherwise you'll lose a stack of readers every time you finish a story and move onto a new Smackjeeves(etc) site for a new short story! Just have a feed for each comic and a superfeed that combines all those feeds.
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012
i've re-read this comment a few times but i'm super behind and retarded at networking T_T can you clarify please?
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kargath64 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012
Oh I forgot to link to the plugin sites:
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kargath64 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012
I'll try and make that clearer (and add a few points)

DA's interface is terrible for comics because there's no obvious entry point for new readers. It doesn't flow.

You as a creator need a single place for people to go to when they want to see your stuff. A person should be able to search for "Jennifer Quick" and get a one-stop-shop where they can find all your things. (wulfmune dot com seems available)
Right now your creator presence is fragmented. You have DA, your tumblr, your old site with the marker CPF drawings (can't remember the name), and multiple individual webcomic sites (including multiple sites for a single comic)!

In addition to this, you have the trouble that many people will follow your comics via RSS feed. That means that when you finish up a series and move to a new one, you'll lose all the readers who were just following the comics via that RSS feed and aren't subscribed to your blog etc (assuming you start a new Drunkduck page for each comic series)
Even worse is the comic mirroring you're doing - Google *punishes* sites that it detects have duplicate content - your sites can even vanish entirely from its index!

Going with a package like Comicpress (spelled it wrong before) or Webcomic and customising it a bit helps get rid of the multiple sites problem. Both are Wordpress components that let you set up a combination blog/comic site. With a little work you can set up streams for multiple series at once.

You'll need to do a bit of work, but it's worth getting it right *now* rather than after you've got a lot of people linking to and reading your fragments strewn about the place.
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blwhere Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ugh, don't make me choose... D: Loved all 3, and wished all 3 were longer. ESPECIALLY hungry, I looove the characters, and I would enjoy
seeing those 2 guys get into more mischief, you really didn't see what the dark haired guy is truly capable of. :D

I like it when you're secluded, you come up with more stuff for us to enjoy!!! <--- Sounds bad, I'm sorry. I want you to have a life of course,
but I like your art too much for you stop for, what, a few years? :D
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2012
i would like to go back and revisit all these stories ^_^;; aah but i also have other ideas i haven't touched yet. aah. i've been sick lately and i need to get better darn it!
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blwhere Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
if i were you, i would make all my new stories first, then start doing the older stories.
That way you have the basics down for them, and you can always come back to it later.
I also hope you get better! No need for rushing!
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five-pm Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2012
I loved all 3 stories very much! Each of them is unique, with its own atmosphere.
Each story is complete, perfectly fine as a stand-alone, but also seems to be a part of something bigger, like a glimpse into other world or the characters` life. Everything and everyone in the stories have this depth; one gets the feeling that there is so much more to them and wants to learn about it. (I'd love to read sequels of all the 3 stories)
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One of the things I like the most about 'Off*beat' is that the characters are so real, so alive, you can really relate to them. I`ve hardly ever felt this way towards fictional characters (to tell the truth, perhaps the only other time was Lynn Flewelling`s novels). But now I know that it's not just 'Off*beat', this is true for all of your stories.
These 3 are short stories, so the reader can't possibly have enough time to really get to know the characters, but in spite of that they feel like real people, one can see that they have consistent personalities, even though we are only shown a small part of them. It's a mystery to me how you can portray your characters like that in short stories.
Well, it's actually a mystery to me how it is possible to create characters like that at all. It's like magic.
What I am trying to say is: I can't help but really care about your characters.

Thank you so much for sharing these wonderful stories with us on deviantart!
I'm looking forward to reading more stories from you in the future =^__^=

(P.S. Excuse me if there are any mistakes, please. English is not my first language.)
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2012
i'm really happy to read that you were able to become interested in their characters in such a short format.

i read a few of lynn flewellings books. from what i read, i liked her characters also. dashing and a bit flawed :)

i think i spend all my focus on my characters and not usually enough on the plot itself. but i really like to spend all my down time thinking about getting in their heads.
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keiiii Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
I enjoyed them all. When you were adding the pages, I was looking forward to seeing new ones and finding out how the story unfolds. :heart:

I was sad to see the Normal One end because it seemed like such a perfect setup for a neverending source of amusing situations. I would've loved to get to know Terry's family better!

Threads is... Soul Union AU? It was awesome to see those characters again. I liked the ending here in particular. It wraps up the short story perfectly, yet it lingers the way a good bittersweet ending does.

Hungry is probably my favorite. I wish I could explain why, but I can't. D: As with The Normal One, I would love to learn more about the characters, their past and whatever adventures await those two.
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2012
thanks for all your feedback!

i think in the end, hungry probably has the most potential to me for future stories. i think their scenario was the most fleshed out.

the normal one was so campy. i think humor is tough to write. i'm always second guessing and feeling a bit guilty in retrospect.

i would like to do another Soul Union AU short sometime, maybe with some of the other characters instead :3 that sounds more do-able to me then the original epic storyline.
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keiiii Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2012
There were a couple of Soul Union characters that I've never actually seen in the comic. I'd love to meet them some time if you can include them in an AU short. :D
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
ooooh~ that's a good idea!

i had the coolest dream the other night >_>; and it kind of made me want to draw a whole NEW story/characters ideas. aaahhhh!!!! i'll never even come sloe to catching up XD;;;
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merofi Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
Also I must add, give yourself time to build up momentum with your readership. After returning from a long hiatus, it will take time to reach your full stride in terms of traffic. But, as long as you keep posting, you'll get there eventually! Just don't get discouraged by the slow build and enjoy the scenic route, so to speak. ^_^
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2012
thanks T_T i am really happy to have gotten such a warm welcome back to DA in general.
it feels like i never left. it's so weird how most of my life seems to stay static yet time flies by so quick!!
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merofi Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
I loved all three stories. They're all different so it's difficult to compare them to each other! It's hard with comic pages because the story unfolds at a slow pace put up a few pages at a time. When I did webcomics the typical pattern was not much feedback on individual pages, then a flood of comments at the beginning and end of every chapter/issue.

I'm not a fan of DA, personally, but if I had to do webcomics again I'd probably just post the pages on my blogspot account and tag the pages in a single category. There's probably better websites out there specifically geared towards posting comics, but I've been so far out of the webcomics loop I really don't know any. A lot of the youngsters seem to be migrating to tumblr and twitter. Casting a wide net over the web seems to be common nowadays. But just so you know, wherever you choose to post your stories, I'll be there to read them and leave comments. ^_^ I love your work, Jen! Always have and always will! :D
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2012
yeah i don't think i've ever really been 'in the loop' so to speak XD;; thanks for your support, though! i'm glad you still make it here~ :hug:
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nameseeker Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
You know, I think there are a lot of lurkers looking at your art. I've been checking your page from time to time for several years without ever commenting, because I don't particularly like to. and I'm sure there are more people like this, silently enjoying what you are posting.
About the short stories, my favorite one was Threads. Most of the time magic users are described as overly sympathetic people always here to save the day ; Ilyon's version "I won't help you if I don't get something out of it" seems more believable to me. The original/longer script would certainly be interesting to read.
Best of luck for the future.
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2012
thank you for taking the time to drop me a note~ i know i tend to lurk when it comes to forums without commenting so it makes a lot of sense~

glad you liked threads and weren't turned off by ilyon's views of magic>people.
he's definitely not a hero for all his power, but i wouldn't say he's maliciously evil.
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Leucrotta Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012
The Normal One was cute, but my favorite was Threads. I also liked Hungry, too. I'm interested in these people. While the other two were almost self-contained (Normal One could be a longer story I suppose), Hungry felt like a small part of a larger story. I would definitely read more if it existed.
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
hungry had a pretty epic story but unlike soul union, it was a bit more organized and linear. like you could break it down into episodes. threads was a very watered down version of the original. it was really difficult to condense that story idea, as it was really all over the place. i didn't have any sense of structure >_< and just kept cramming more and more ideas in to the same story...

in both threads and hungry though, i was feeling more depth as well.
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neocloud9 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012
Hmm... Hungry was really cool, but I'll admit that I have a bias for Western-themed stories in general. They were all great! You could see the potential for a long-running series in each of them. :)
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
hungry was one of those stories that i had in my head and thought, that would be cool...but i don't think i could draw it. i'm still mixed with how it turned out. i feel i need to do a lot more research to give the setting more credibility. but i'm glad you liked it!
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wonder1440 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012
I love them. I'm sorry I don't comment on every page, sometimes I comment on the last page you post after reading all of them >.<

Your stories are so well told... like Off*beat they draw you in and bring you along at a pace making you want more!!!!!!!
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
oooh no no, i hope i didn't come off as complaining! i don't think there is something to say about every page anyway! that's one reason i was uploading in small chunks when i could. maybe it's just my perception, i just seemed to feel people were not as interested as a general community. not that it will stop me :P
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wonder1440 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
Not at all! I just appreciate all the pages even if I end up commenting at the end :)
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NickAlmand Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012
deviantArt is a finicky, finicky, Pokemon. :XD:

I wouldn't worry too much about the views. I've found that dA is most useful as a simple and easy way to create a body of work to show future editors without having to build an entire website yourself. It's really easy to get caught up in the dA micro-culture, but it's honestly not important to your success.

Otherwise, I really like "The Normal One" the best. It was funny and sweet, and a very creative combination of a likeable jerk main character, gags, and very cute side characters. ^_^ It's the story I can most easily see continuing on an ongoing basis.

Also, I'm on a sci-fi alien kick. :3
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
"the normal one" was based off a story i came up with when i was in high shcool. back then it had more of a "magical girl" kind of element...well i guess magical boy XD;;; since afsi was an alien who could transform into a weapon. it was very spontaneous. i think the overall plot and characters are not polished but there is no harm in a fun little romp now and the right? XD
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NickAlmand Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012
Aww! :XD: It's still a lot of fun, I have to say.
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egglorru Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012
Hmm, idk which one I enjoyed most, I plan on buying all three as soon as you let me xD I guess I am particularly attached to your aliens in Normal, so we'll go with that.

Also I'm exempt from your "comments less on comic pages" because I commented on ALL OF THEM :iconknuxwinplz: :iconpyrodanceplz: :iconvictorydanceplz:
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
yes thank you very much XD :hug:
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NarulovesSasu88 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012
I feel the same way as you.. after quitting so many jobs because I dreaded going to them, I decided that I truly am more comfortable with being by myself or in the vicinity of not so many people. Like you said, I can put up a damn good show but when it comes down to it, I'd rather be working quietly on some project or one on one with someone.

I've thought about applying to a coffee shop to help me with confidence issues, or just thrust me into working with people/ the public. It would help me a lot but maybe I should just be a janitor or something? lol
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
i believe people are very adaptable when they are willing. it's tiring to be around people all the time, but so is labor (such as cleaning). i find a mix of it works best for me. i have to be forced to interact with people. it keeps me more well rounded as an individual and my perspective on life in check.
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NarulovesSasu88 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
I agree.. I enjoy being around people for the most part, I think if it were just me alone all day I'd go crazy. Plus I like helping people.
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SilentUnicorn Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah I would have commented more but reading your stories made me forget to....although I think I faved most of the pages.

My favorite was the normal one, it seemed happier I guess. I like writing bittersweet, but love comedy lol.

~<3~
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
oh i hope i didn't seem like i was fishing for comments >_< the pages do get less views and all, but i will end up working what i feel like doing for myself in the end. >_<

i'm just glad you enjoyed the stories. i wonder if the modern setting in the normal one was also part of it's appeal?
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Shampoo-chan13 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012
When I'm reading the pages I usually forget to fav or comment because I am thrilled to read on >///< I am just to link-happy O////O
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
aww~ XD well thank you for reading them! they don't get as many page views so i'm not sure if people find them interesting enough to read. oh well, i like telling stories regardless. it gives my characters something to do other than stand around XD;;;
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Shampoo-chan13 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
I have to remind myself to Favorite them or comment on them cause I am easily distracted PTL

I feel the same! Sometimes you feel bad for your character and they would be mad at you for not telling their story >//<
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Midnyte-Wolf Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Deviantart is generally a site for illustrations, so that's what people expect and respond to most I suppose. You might get more feedback and followers on your comic pages if you post the comics to webcomic sites like smackjeeves.com. :) That's where I go all the time to read webcomics and stuff.

You know, just to put that out there. I'm sure people love and appreciate the pages anyway no matter where they're posted. I sure do. You're the best! (but I am guilty of being too busy to comment on everything, so I'm contributing to the problem I suppose; story of my life on dA)

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As for Renascence, I remember my friend bought one of the volumes years ago and loaned it to me. My favorite story at the time was The Normal One. Something about a standoff-ish guy playing hard-to-get with a super affectionate partner... and maybe the cat ears. That might have something to do with it. But these days, I think I prefer Hungry? More adventure and I find the characters really interesting (both in design and personality)... Just wish there had more... what's the word? Fanservice!
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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
i've always been shy of posting my artwork on other sites, as i felt it would be redundant, but i'm not that happy with how deviantart's format works for flipping through pages. i'd like to organize my galleries into sub folders as well.

i'll check that site out, thanks for the reference :)

hungry with fanservice...mmmmh~
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Midnyte-Wolf Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't think you'd have to worry very much about redundancy. The only thing that could come of posting to multiple sites is casting a wider net and pulling in more people who probably don't frequent deviantart. You could post all your comic pages to smackjeeves and, if you wanted to alert your watchers here that you've updated, you can upload a preview on dA of the new page to let them know. I watch an artist on here who does something similar.

Just... don't start posting on tumblr. I don't have one of those and it's starting to bug me how all my favorite artists are moving over there and posting their best works there that I never get to see because I'm too stubborn to try to go figure out the site.

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wulfmune Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012
ah i'm too out of the loop to use something like tumblr. XD;;;too bloggy?? for me i think. i still don't even use my facebook account :/
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